{"id":2219,"date":"2002-06-06T13:00:06","date_gmt":"2002-06-06T11:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=2219"},"modified":"2002-06-06T13:00:06","modified_gmt":"2002-06-06T11:00:06","slug":"the-discovery-of-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=2219","title":{"rendered":"The discovery of &#8220;God&#8221;."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>From this meeting the text is available:<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" cellspacing=\"5\">\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" colspan=\"2\" valign=\"top\"><span class=\"style9\">Holland, Venwoude, June 6, 2002<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" colspan=\"2\" valign=\"top\">Long silent eye contact, Isaac starts the talking.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&gt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">The being nothing part you have pretty down. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&lt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Sorry?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&gt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">The nothing part of knowing yourself you have pretty down. What&#8217;s integrating now is the everything part, the love part and that is beautiful to see. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&lt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">[whispering] wauw. [after wiping tears out if my eyes, whispering] So, now I can see you better. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&gt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">You see me in your heart, it&#8217;s good enough. You could be blind, you couldn&#8217;t miss me.Anything you&#8217;d like to say? <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&lt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">In a way you said it all. And I could share about my proces for hours. But there is one example that I want to share. A few days ago it was a question, but it is all happening by itself so fast, it is amazing. I came here with the intention to keep low profile, I know a lot of people will not believe me. And existence didn&#8217;t allow me because of this accident. [I stumbled over a very old, very sick lady, this causing a lot of turmoil]. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">And that made me clear that eh&#8230; I very often have the idea that eh&#8230;. Why me? I seem to be the choosen one to mess up. And in this case it was so a 100 percent clear to me that there was no doing involved: I&#8217;m just the choosen one for this, aargh. But anyway, I had the intention to stay a bit invisible. And compared with the past, you know I did quite a good job. And the amazing thing is that, the effect is that I started seeing (because from my perspective what I was doing was so little) that I started seeing the feedback, without asking it. And I am flabbergasted. That&#8217;s why <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&gt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Your whole &#8230;. The tone of your voice has changed. The way you &#8230;. There is so much that has happened in your nervous system. It&#8217;s beautiful, very happy to see. Happy for you my friend. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" colspan=\"2\" valign=\"top\">[Silence. Someone from the audience asks: can you say more?] <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&lt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">As I said, I can go on for hours.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&gt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Oh no, don&#8217;t encourage him. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&lt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Actually there is this one example. Something I really want to check out with you. So, low profile, being quiet, sitting here. And I became aware of having a very strong, let&#8217;s say, experience of being watched at, and I have been observing this for a few days. And it is something like: here I am, with this almost 180 degrees. And it is as if from here the world originates. And from this perspective I&#8217;m just fysically bigger than all the other &#8216;puppets&#8217;. And I thought it was this. And I have been observing it, and I had really the feeling that even when I moved a finger, it was watched by all of you. And I know it is nonsense, but that was so strong. And then, maybe the second or the third day, at a point I just closed my eyes with the question: how real is this and where is it coming from? And then I became aware that it is in my system. And then I went to this and then I became aware that there is, somewhere in my system, let&#8217;s say, a sky, kind of the scale of the real sky, that is watching me. And anything that&#8217;s in my system comes from me. But I cann&#8217;t see it, it&#8217;s like &#8230;. Can you relate to empty modalities? It&#8217;invisible &#8230;. So I stayed with that. I can not see it and it was there: I kind o f sensed it. And then at a point it dawned on me, I just knew: Ah, this is the old &#8230;. , this is my let&#8217;s say mental construction of God, the god that was on the toilets, like in &#8216;god is watching you&#8217;. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&gt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Yes.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&lt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">And now that is collapsing. And it is so amazing. And it&#8217;s all by itself. So already for days I have this question and now I am here and even the question is gone. I am right on track. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&gt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">You are right on track.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&lt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">I can so more and more relate to what is happening with Mr.T [This is an alias, not the real Mr. T]. And in the beginning I was judgemental about it. And that kind of collapsed. And yesterday or this mornig Mr. T was in the chair with you. And then he was doing this speaking, and I recognise this so terribly strong, from the need to help: with me it was almost from the obsession of helping. And at a point his finger came up and I really smiled like &#8216;ah, there he goes again&#8217;. And then somebody else shouted: &#8216;this is not a question, this is a lecture&#8217;. It&#8217;s so much my story in a way. I have been a trainer, I left it, I am a carpenter now. Because I was the one (that&#8217;s why I shouted: he is talking to me), the guy with the neon letters &#8216;reject me&#8217;. And this light will disappear. And I have no clue if that will take a week, or a month or a year. Or that it will stay forever. Than I am really the choosen one, in this sense. Enfin, bla bla bla bla bla. Here I am. Pffff. <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&gt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Thank you.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&lt;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">Thank you. Thank you all.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"21\" valign=\"top\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From this meeting the text is available: Holland, Venwoude, June 6, 2002 &nbsp; &nbsp; Long silent eye contact, Isaac starts the talking. &gt; The being nothing part you have pretty down. &lt; Sorry? &gt; The nothing part of knowing yourself &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=2219\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2219","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-satsang-isaac-hans"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1tD9I-zN","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2219","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2219"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2219\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2219"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2219"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2219"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}