{"id":2513,"date":"2013-09-22T20:14:15","date_gmt":"2013-09-22T20:14:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=2513"},"modified":"2013-09-23T10:43:35","modified_gmt":"2013-09-23T10:43:35","slug":"is-there-anybody-out-there","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=2513","title":{"rendered":"Is there anybody out there?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/pfthewall.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2515\" alt=\"pfthewall\" src=\"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/pfthewall.gif\" width=\"358\" height=\"366\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I followed the impulse to ask for permission to publish the following mail that was written today.<\/p>\n<p>So, with permission:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>How are you doing? (Me asking this).<\/p>\n<p><em>Oh Man!<\/em><br \/>\n<em> (suffering) <\/em>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <em>(Friend answering).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>All I can do for you, for me, is feel your pain and embrace it.<\/p>\n<p>For the rest, in language pointing at what is here always.<br \/>\nWel, you know the language, there is nowhere to go etc.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, as long as we think we exist, it makes sense to seek.<br \/>\nHeard that yesterday beautifully put in words by Francis Lucille in the first 15 minutes of this youtube: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=gNmnRuf8LTk\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=gNmnRuf8LTk<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>Duality reappeared,<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And where is it appearing in?<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>separation hurts,<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, it fucking hurts.<br \/>\n(You know the so called fuck-tape of Osho? He originally gave this answer after a lady sannyassin complained about his rude language: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI<\/a>)<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>and its freakin&#8217; cold in my flat, the shower not really working and the renter left for holiday, so there is little i can do &#8211; apart from putting on 3 layers of clothes and moonboots INSIDE.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yeah, taking a moonwalk thru your overdue maintenance practicallities.<br \/>\nStart 1-minute actions.<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>I&#8217;d so like to take a break from this life, just cannot receive it &#8220;as the beloved&#8221; right now. \ud83d\ude41<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Stop fighting her, she wants you.<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>I guess living as close to the waterline as you do may be cold too at times&#8230;<br \/>\nWhat do YOU do to stay warm?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I put the heater up, works fine. Up till now.<br \/>\n((When I was in India last Januari the heater stopped and was repaired. Few month ago it stopped again and the whole thing was replaced by a new one).<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>This last week in the cold almost pushed the nice memories out of the system, which in itself is painful to notice. Makes me sad, to find these words&#8230;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>At the moment you wrote this, the beloved showed up as sadness.<br \/>\nJust feel it, cry, take good care of yourself.<\/p>\n<p>My own nervous system is a rather neurotic one.<br \/>\nAlready working on it since 1997.<\/p>\n<p>When I was starting the construction of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.houseboathotel.nl\/accommodation_amsterdam\/boat_bk52_guestroom\/\">the second B&amp;B<\/a> I was rather tired from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.houseboathotel.nl\/accommodation_amsterdam\/boat_bk53_guestroom\/\">the first one<\/a>, and as I was often working alone and living on the job so to speak, as a means to slow myself down and have the body get some attention, I gave myself on my 60th birthday (Tomorrow 6 years ago) a massage as a present.<br \/>\nSince then I go to this sauna mostly twice a week and have a massage by Paul the Sufi. He massages me for 45 minutes and sings spiritual songs to that too.<br \/>\nIn Paradisum, for instance. Without the bells though. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7kK2m-EdQoI\">http:\/\/www.youtube.comwatch?v=7kK2m-EdQoI<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>As we know: the nature of experience is: constantly changing&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is just a matter of words, I know.<br \/>\nBut.<br \/>\nBut. But.<br \/>\nThe nature of experience is awareness and the so called content of experience is changing.<br \/>\nFortunately, otherwise we would not have an experience at all.<\/p>\n<p>(&#8230;&#8230;)<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>therefore &#8211; in a way &#8211; i find myself waiting for a better experience&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Not therefor. You are fighting reality and waiting for a better experience is a easy way out of feeling the pain of it.<br \/>\nAlas, dissociation also hurts, this pain is just better camouflaged.<\/p>\n<p>Reminds me of the time in satsang where it happened that looking thru boredom happened.<br \/>\nSee the text of this here: <a href=\"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=2284\">https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=2284<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=h9BzVSUJ_wU\">Tear Down the Wall<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KLwah-q6Z8E\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KLwah-q6Z8E<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"mid:523DE210.3070505@de-Bruyn.de\"><p>Love, &#8230;..<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hug,<\/p>\n<p>hans<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I followed the impulse to ask for permission to publish the following mail that was written today. So, with permission: &nbsp; How are you doing? (Me asking this). Oh Man! 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