{"id":4337,"date":"2015-09-17T16:56:40","date_gmt":"2015-09-17T14:56:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=4337"},"modified":"2015-09-17T16:59:39","modified_gmt":"2015-09-17T14:59:39","slug":"ramji-and-meji-meta-revisited","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=4337","title":{"rendered":"Ramji and Meji meta revisited"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Dear James Swartz,<\/p>\n

During my last visit to Rishikesj\/Laxumanjhula, a Swami suggested me to stop blogging. And I did.
\n(Report in Dutch: hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=4129<\/a>).
\nThis lasted for quite some time, yet is was temporally.
\nIt is one of the reasons that this mail to you took so long to surface.
\nBuble, buble, blup: here it is.<\/p>\n

I want to bring to your attention a biography. For two reasons.
\nFor one thing, it is one of the most inspiring life stories that I have read since long.
\nAnd, second reason, in it the author describes how the ongoing attacks by his opponents, his collegue medical doctors in France (at least the representatives of their organisations), in some strange way were supplying him with the energy to withstand those attacks. (He even based some later reseach on this noticing).<\/p>\n

I am speaking of the biography of Alfred Tomatis.
\n(The Conscious Ear: My Life of Transformation Through Listening).
\nAs this man was a workaholic, his biography is basically a detailed description of his work and of all the discoveries he made about our hearing ability.
\nAnd also of all the methods that he developped to help people benefit from this.<\/p>\n

I myself ‘discovered’ Tomatis when I read about him in Peter Sloterdijk’s magnum opus the Spheres trilogy.
\nAt some point, as one does nowadays, I walked over to the computer and searched for Alfred Tomatis. And there a whole new world opened up for me.
\n(Report in Dutch: hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=1947<\/a>).
\nI got goose bumps and knew: this is for me.
\nIt brought me a lot. Drawings, amongst other things. (Examples<\/a>).<\/p>\n

For some reason Alfred Tomatis was strongly opposed by the medical world. They sued him time and again. As he says: “The College of the Order of medicine called me regularly to account for professional or behavioral errors that I was accused of committing.”
\nHis description of this ongoing suing ends with this: “By what my professional colleagues brought forward during the memorable meetings of the Disciplinary Board, I was not put down, but I just got energized by it.”<\/p>\n

When I read this description, it suddenly dawned on me that it was strongly your way of answering my emails, that gave me the energy to give it another try.<\/p>\n

I just share with you that this is something I have seen.
\nIt was your out of proportion and extreme answers that geared me up.<\/p>\n

(Two examples of your anwers that fired my brain up: Advaita vedanta is only for
\nmentally healthy people and people who can’t stand my way of critiszing colleques
\nare unfit for advaita vedanta).<\/p>\n

So, now I am aware of this mechanism, there is also more choice in dealing with this way of being met.<\/p>\n

For the rest: thanks for all you learned me during the ride. And also for bringing to my attention the existence of the ongoing discussion about neo advaita.<\/p>\n

Here is the best page on this that I have found so far:
\nhttp:\/\/www.enlightened-spirituality.org\/neo-advaita.html<\/a><\/p>\n

Oh and by the way, this blog is a reply to your last answer to me.
\nYou replied to my remark that I did not have the impression that you had read my review on your article on neo advaitins.<\/p>\n

Your answer was clear and rather entertaining: “I didn’t read it, Hans. Honestly I am not interested in what you think of James, Vedanta, etc.\u00a0 Somehow your mind has created a relationship with someone that I don’t know.\u00a0 If it is a kind of catharsis for you, if it makes you feel good, please keep up this imaginary conversation.\u00a0 For me it is a complete bore.\u00a0 I am way less interested in me than you are.\u00a0 In fact the ‘me’ that you see is only a ‘me’ in your mind.\u00a0 Please don’t write me about this ‘me’ any more.\u00a0 If you do, I will mark your emails as spam.\u00a0 If you want to have a constructive conversation about Vedanta you can write Shiningworld and you will be assigned a teacher by someone other than me and you can begin a genuine inquiry. If you want to know what Shiningworld is about read the satsangs on the website with an open mind, meaning without the ‘James’ filter distorting everything.\u00a0 To repeat: this conversation is very tiresome.\u00a0 Don’t keep it up or you go into the spam box.”<\/em><\/p>\n

Yet, it was\u00a0 not about what I thought about James, Vedanta etc.
\nIt was a serious investigation in what you called your good arguments.
\nAnd yes, that was somewhat disappointing.
\nAnd an informative experience again.
\nYour way<\/span> of answering had geared me up in the direction of also having my review published officially, preferably at the same page where your article appears.
\nYet, having seen this above described mechanism gave me the choice to cool down.
\nAnd to leave it as it is: published on my very own website.
\nThe Nirvana Fallacy<\/a><\/p>\n

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Ramji and Meji 1<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 2<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 3<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 4<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 5<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 6<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 7<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 8<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 9<\/a>
\nRamji and Meji 10
\n<\/a>Ramji and Meji 11<\/a><\/h6>\n

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Dear James Swartz, During my last visit to Rishikesj\/Laxumanjhula, a Swami suggested me to stop blogging. And I did. (Report in Dutch: hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=4129). This lasted for quite some time, yet is was temporally. It is one of the reasons that … Continue reading →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":4340,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"yes","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4337","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-my-blog"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/tumblr_m6znay6tLe1r2uu8io1_500.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1tD9I-17X","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4337","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4337"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4337\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4346,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4337\/revisions\/4346"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/4340"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4337"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4337"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4337"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}