{"id":4833,"date":"2017-09-13T16:12:27","date_gmt":"2017-09-13T14:12:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=4833"},"modified":"2019-07-17T21:44:53","modified_gmt":"2019-07-17T19:44:53","slug":"bodhi-sattva-ki-jai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=4833","title":{"rendered":"Bodhi Sattva Ki Jai !"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4834\" src=\"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/3470fd0a2b89274f76054e7011ae0a29-248x300.jpg\" alt=\"3470fd0a2b89274f76054e7011ae0a29\" width=\"248\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/3470fd0a2b89274f76054e7011ae0a29-248x300.jpg 248w, https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/3470fd0a2b89274f76054e7011ae0a29.jpg 474w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 248px) 100vw, 248px\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"clearfix _7wy\">\n<p><span class=\"_5x8v _4ij8 _8o lfloat _ohe _5a5i _5a5j\" title=\"Sunday, September 10\"><span class=\"_5a4-\">SEP<\/span><span class=\"_5a4z\">10<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"_42ef\">\n<div class=\"_5gmw\">\n<h1 id=\"seo_h1_tag\" class=\"_5gmx\" data-testid=\"event-permalink-event-name\">Amsterdam Intensive<\/h1>\n<div class=\"_5gnb\">\n<p><span data-testid=\"event_permalink_privacy\">Public<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"_b9-\">\n<div data-testid=\"event_permalink_feature_line\">\u00b7 Hosted by <a id=\"js_1olh\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/NewDharmaYoga\/\" data-hovercard=\"\/ajax\/hovercard\/page.php?id=284559107391\" data-hovercard-position=\"below\">Sat Shree &amp; New Dharma<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"event_relationship\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"event_button_bar\" class=\"_5qwr\">\n<div class=\"clearfix\">\n<div class=\"_1pf1 lfloat _ohe\">\n<div id=\"u_jsonp_5_5\" class=\"_6a uiPopover _5qwt\" data-testid=\"event_rsvp_flyout_trigger\"><a id=\"u_jsonp_5_6\" class=\"_42ft _4jy0 _55pi _2agf _4o_4 _i8w _5qwv _p _4jy4 _517h _51sy\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/events\/1684899568478552\/permalink\/1740056722962836\/?notif_t=like&amp;notif_id=1505107147044188#\" rel=\"toggle\"><i class=\"img sp_Wvb0Fx8lXsx_2x sx_36c4c0\"><\/i><span class=\"_55pe\">Going<\/span><i class=\"img sp_Wvb0Fx8lXsx_2x sx_2b5a91\"><\/i><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"_1pf1 rfloat _ohf\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"event_summary\" class=\"_5gmv\" data-referrer=\"event_summary\">\n<div class=\"_5vl5 _3a9j\">\n<ul class=\"uiList _4kg _4ks\">\n<li class=\"_3slj\">\n<div class=\"_36hm\">\n<table class=\"uiGrid _51mz\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr class=\"_51mx\">\n<td class=\"_51m- _phw\">\n<div class=\"_6a\">\n<div class=\"_6a _6b\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"_6a _6b\"><i class=\"_ohg img sp_fxSPZIx4ZWm_2x sx_7700dc\"><u>clock<\/u><\/i><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<td class=\"_51m- _4930 _phw _51mw\">\n<div class=\"_xkh _phw\">\n<div class=\"_6a\">\n<div class=\"_6a _6b\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"_6a _6b\">\n<div class=\"_publicProdFeedInfo__timeRowTitle _5xhk\">Sunday, September 10 at 1 PM &#8211; 7 PM<\/div>\n<div class=\"_5xhp fsm fwn fcg\">3 days ago<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"_3xd0 _3slj\">\n<div id=\"u_jsonp_5_i\" class=\"_36hm _5cmn\">\n<table class=\"uiGrid _51mz\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr class=\"_51mx\">\n<td class=\"_51m- _phw\">\n<div class=\"_6a\">\n<div class=\"_6a _6b\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"_6a _6b\"><i class=\"_ohg img sp_fxSPZIx4ZWm_2x sx_322cd3\"><u>pin<\/u><\/i><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<td class=\"_51m- _51mw\">\n<div class=\"clearfix _4930\">\n<div class=\"_xkg _phw rfloat _ohf\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"_xkh _phw _42ef\">\n<div class=\"_6a\">\n<div class=\"_6a _6b\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"_6a _6b\">\n<p><a id=\"u_jsonp_5_l\" class=\"_5xhk\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/denieuweyogaschool\/\" data-hovercard=\"\/ajax\/hovercard\/page.php?id=1387279468150926\" data-hovercard-prefer-more-content-show=\"1\">De Nieuwe Yogaschool<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"_5xhp fsm fwn fcg\">Laurierstraat 109, 1016PL Amsterdam, Netherlands<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3><span data-ft=\"{&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}\"><span class=\"UFICommentBody\">Hans van der Gugten went to this Amsterdam Intensive hosted by Sat Shree &amp; New Dharma on Sunday, September 10 from 1 PM &#8211; 7 PM. Since then, so already for a few days something is simmering inside me. It is going on since I was on the chair with Sat Shree. And here on facebook and later copied into a blog, I will speak a bit to you, Sat Shree. Just from memory, not from the promised but not yet having arrived sound recordings, I represent what came to me, in combination with some feelings that it brings forth: I can see how attractive it is to have (found) someone that has such a complete cosmology worked out and can tell about it so much as a matter of course that you hardly can imagine that once ever the word doubt was of any use in real life. When on stage in the chair I told you about the action I undertook some ten years ago in my family. It was about getting rid of a family secret around incest. And, as I told you, recently, partly made possible by this actions of mine, my sister published a book with her story. The subject, her subject is incest. Yet, the title is referring to the secrecy: &#8220;Als je de woorden weet. Overleven met een familiegeheim&#8221;. The enormity of the impact of that layer of her (and mine and my whole family&#8217;s) experience was something that she had not been aware of. Then you told me that doing this action has been a way of breaking off, postponing, of flushing down the drain my spiritual development. A bit later in our conversation you stated, boldly I&#8217;d say, that the purpose of taking a life on earth, choosing a human existence, (as a soul, coming from what you call the Middle Kingdom), is all about suffering, cause without suffering Consciousness can never come to know itself. So, at some point I came into the conversation with this a tiny bit defensive statement: &#8220;When I got you right, you just told me that I have resisted the Purpose of The Cosmos.&#8221; [Yes, I&#8217;m comedian enought to know that this will bring laughter in the audience of almost a hundred people, and thus bringing down the tension a bit). Somewhat later you asked, reacting on something I said, if I had been instrumental in doing this action? Yes of course I said, certainly for a good part of it. I took a lot of time for it, I meditated on it, I asked for advice on it, it was something that happened thru me and it was clear to me that it had to happen. We have met before a few times in India and we will probably meet again. When I left the chair I said: see you in Tiru. So, when we meet again in Tiruvannamalai, the city where Raman Maharshi used to live on the for Indians holy mountain Arunachala, there will be questions from my side about our meeting. And about your cosmology. I mean, suffering, when it occurs, can be instrumental in finding our inner core, in finding peace. But to state that the purpose of human existence is suffering!!. C&#8217;mon. I had and have the feeling that my action healed something. Even something like, whatever it may be or is, family karma. Doesn&#8217;t healing and progress also happen here and now on this earth? If taking this kind of actions means not getting enlightened (even more enlightened), then so be it. Bodhi Sattva Ki Jai ! Looking forward to answers, rather sooner than later. Greetingz. hans<\/span><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>(Text as posted on facebook: https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/events\/1684899568478552\/permalink\/1740056722962836\/?notif_t=like&amp;notif_id=<\/p>\n<h6>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<\/h6>\n<h2>Link to part 2, <a href=\"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=4942\">Unfinished business in Rishikesh 1 ( Bodhi Sattva Ki Jai ! 2)<\/a><\/h2>\n<h6>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<\/h6>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SEP10 Amsterdam Intensive Public \u00b7 Hosted by Sat Shree &amp; New Dharma Going clock Sunday, September 10 at 1 PM &#8211; 7 PM 3 days ago pin De Nieuwe Yogaschool Laurierstraat 109, 1016PL Amsterdam, Netherlands Hans van der Gugten went &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/?p=4833\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":4834,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"yes","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4833","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-my-blog"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/3470fd0a2b89274f76054e7011ae0a29.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1tD9I-1fX","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4833","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4833"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4833\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5193,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4833\/revisions\/5193"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/4834"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4833"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4833"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hansvandergugten.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4833"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}