India seems to be over / what has India brought me?

India seems to be over.

Here the text that I mentioned on why I probably will not travel to India anymore:

Op 27 mrt. 2022 om 16:31 heeft Hans van der Gugten <gug@hansvandergugten.nl> het volgende geschreven:


Dear Robert,

Nice to hear that you plan to go to India again.

On the chances of meeting me there the following:

(I copy/paste here a piece from my last mail to Kumar)

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Oh, I wrote someone about my position in relation to India.

I will copy a redacted version of it here:

Quote.
Kelly: Happy to hear from you! We hope to return to India this October-ish.
Do you have any plans to return?
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Hans: For me this corona period has been the time that I have realized again and again how heavy India was for me. It was already to hot when I arrived.

Last year, the first time i could not go to India i noticed that each and every time i thought of India my system went ‘ah, lucky me, not that heat!’.

India always had a ungraspable pull, had to do something with this fairy tale of becoming enlightened.

And then there was this little girl that I met the first year and sponsored since.

Two projects that kind of both are finished.

I am enlightened enough by now I have decided, and have given up to strive for the 100 % one that would bring you in the same Nibbana heaven as for instance Buddha.

And the girl last summer got married and is pregnant.             

No more projects in India.

So when I go it will be to place and a time where it is not so hot.
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Kelly: I feel what you are saying. Makes sense. And am happy to hear you have been able to dance your dance and that India seemed to play such a time in it.
Unquote.

All and all it is quite possible that I will not come to India again.

But what do we know?

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Aho,
hans

What has India brought me?

The question that “my” decision evokes in some people is this: what has India brought you?

An example of this question and answer is as follows:

Hans, how do you notice, or rather, what are the characteristics of someone who is fully/partially enlightened?

My attempted answer:

The day before yesterday friend Jan sent me a video with the question “Is this useful to you Hans?”

It was this YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPGks5K2kIs

I lend it an ear for ten minutes.

It’s more of the same to me, but it’s by all means a man considered to be enlightened trying who is trying to answer that question.

(He is engaged in a huge project with the intention of bringing a really large number of people to enlightenment: “Sri Amma Bhagavan’s intention is to gather 74,000 individuals from around the globe who share this concern for humanity and to facilitate their enlightenment.” https://www.74kgoldenage.com/).

I can’t take it anymore I notice, all the chatter about enlightenment.

For me personally it was the shocking discovery that there was no other answer to Isaac Shapiro’s question ‘And who are you?’ than that I somehow disappeared and that answering the question with “I” no longer made sense.

Until then, the question ‘who are you’ was a weird question. Why? Because of course the answer could only be “I”.

The mentioned moment happened when I saw Isaac Shapiro for the fourth day in a row and I asked him something for the first time.

Then began what I call the big clean up.

And what I sometimes referred to as (also my) enlightenment in those early years later turned out to be a first step on the road to enlightenment.

Swami Atmananda calls this pre awakening.

People who have experienced this are referred to in Buddhism as stream enterers.

The first thing I thought of was to quote you something from my conversation with Rishi, but I sent it to you a long time ago and you wrote that you read it.

That was already in June 2020: One on one with Rishi https://hansvandergugten.nl/?p=5427

So far, so good

Hopefully this answers your question a bit.

Aho,

hans

PS. Added 22-2-’24, recently on Facebook there came along an illustration on how relieved I was, then in Laxman Jhula when it was cold and raining:

Facebook, Hans van der Gugten 14 februari 2019 “On my way to breakfast (porridge and masala chai). Feels so easy today. Wearing socks, vest, coat. Wind force 2, raining a bit and 18 degrees. Yesterday people thought that I was tired, I was yawning all the time. But no, it’s my system going into feeling at home relaxed mode, after a month just too hot. Aaaaaahhh. (Correction: after two month that is).”